Curse

Star Gazer · Aug 29, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

ok, maybe we should explain for the 'morons' out there. we are NOT talking about account-wide titles (even though treasure hunter and wisdom should be, but thats a different matter). we are talking about the HALL itself to DISPLAY all of your account titles. why must people be so stupid?

demonatx · Aug 29, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

/signed

i want to be able to store my mini pets in the hall and have them walk around on the pedestal

Tijger · Aug 29, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Gazer

ok, maybe we should explain for the 'morons' out there. we are NOT talking about account-wide titles (even though treasure hunter and wisdom should be, but thats a different matter). we are talking about the HALL itself to DISPLAY all of your account titles. why must people be so stupid?

Ah, ofcourse, everyone who isnt all worked up about this is a 'stupid moron'...wow, I'm sure you impress people a lot with your mature reasoning skills.

Farrell-Zander · Aug 29, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

/signed

The HoM is pretty aweful the way it is now.

Destiny2097 · Aug 29, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

/signed

im not even gonna have a second look at HoM until sensible changes are made

Mordakai · Aug 29, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Gazer

ok, maybe we should explain for the 'morons' out there. we are NOT talking about account-wide titles (even though treasure hunter and wisdom should be, but thats a different matter). we are talking about the HALL itself to DISPLAY all of your account titles. why must people be so stupid?

I think most people here get what the OP is requesting.

I personally think it's a bad idea. What good will it do it the HoM is linked across all your characters? When GW2 comes out, do ALL your new characters share the same titles as your combined Hall? Do you get to pick and choose? For me, it takes away from the whole idea of the Hall: It's a Monument for one Character, not 8 characters, or 12, or 20...

It's funny, I think most people here assumed the Hall would be Character based. Then the video of the Hall came out and we saw different profession's armor sets, and everyone assumed that meant it was Account Based. Instead, it just meant Anet had a wonky way of showing off our armor.

Now it's not account based, people are mad because they can't take their single Legendary Defender of Ascalon Title and put it on all their GW2 characters (which they can't do anyway, because of the stupid way Titles work in the Hall!)

I'd be fine with the Hall being Character based (as I assumed it would be) as long as:

1. More Titles are allowed.

2. More armor is allowed.

3. More weapons are allowed.

4. Mini-pets can be stored in the Hall.

That's my four main complaints at this stage. I kinda wish all the heroes could be shown, but lets face it, it's not very hard to get all the Heroes, and I can see why Anet put some limitations in place.

A good way to look at the HoM is imagine a line, with two extremes:

Everything Allowed in Hall ____________________________________________ Nothing allowed in Hall

Right now, we are closer to the Nothing allowed, because besides mini-pets and a set of 15k armor or two, most players don't have anything to place.

We shouldn't go the opposite direction, and allow Everything, but the key will to be to find some middle ground where the Achievements unlocked in the Hall still feel worthy, but are still achieveable by most players. For example, if someone wants to carry the Legendary Defender of Ascalon Title to a single character in GW2, that should be allowed.

Dami · Aug 29, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

/agree

Decided it would be a great idea to get
some nice titles to display in my HoM..
DOH

silz · Aug 29, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Mordakai

Taking all titles from 12 characters and transfering them all to every new GW2 character is not where I'm coming from at all.

Taking all titles from my 12 characters, and applying them to one character in GW2 is however what I would like to see. Why not let me choose one character in GW2 to inherit everything I have accomplished so far, and if I want to start other GW2 characters they inherit nothing?

After all, my twelve characters in GW are related right? Why can they not bequeath there belongings to the same single descendant in GW2 and cut the rest out of their wills?

As I said before

All Acheivements in GW1 from all characters ------> one single solitary selected char in GW2 as sole survivior in the "family"

The mechanics are already in place to check if you have created Kuuni once on your account, why not then check to see if a character on your account in GW2 has already chosen to inherit everything from your past?

Ficus · Aug 29, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

/signed

even if i dont think i will buy gwen.

ShadowStep · Aug 29, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08

/ Signed

I agree with everything in the op, but I think that instead of making everything account based, only aspects that affect your account should be, eg. Monument of Honor(including pve titles) and the Monument of Devotion. As I have titles spread over all my chars it would be nice to see them accumulated in one spot. Same with my minis, they are a gift to the player not the char, otherwise they would've been customized from the start.
The other monuments should stay Character based as they only affect that character, armour, weapons and heroes are all items that you have on that character (sure some of us switch weapons between characters, but are still seen as something owned by one character at a time.)

Mordakai · Aug 29, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by silz

applying them to one character in GW2 is however what I would like to see. Why not let me choose one character in GW2 to inherit everything I have accomplished so far, and if I want to start other GW2 characters they inherit nothing?

After all, my twelve characters in GW are related right? Why can they not bequeath there belongings to the same single descendant in GW2 and cut the rest out of their wills?

My twelve Characters aren't related... I see where you are coming from, though.

Hmm. As long as the net result is the same, I guess there's really no harm in making it account based. It would make it a lot easier to fill up your Hall, though...

LumpOfCole · Aug 29, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

The customizations should be account based, not the monument itself imo.

Jongo River · Aug 29, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Bah, I'm not expecting the character based aspect to change, though I am starting to look forward to the launch of GW2, when those people who are fine with a character HoM, find out that their rewards are about as personal as the HoM is - and their "inheritance" consists of a generic "Descendant of Ascalon" title, a spawnable pre-order style weapon, a re-skinned armour and a random mini pet - all of which they spent 2 years earning, 10 times over.

Maugrim Ulf · Aug 29, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12

/signed with a passion!

Lorenstrovic · Aug 29, 2007, 06:08 PM // 18:08

/signed , they should make it account-based imo

blobby · Aug 29, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

/signed ............

pkodyssey · Aug 29, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuzBar

/signed

As a PvE player mainly its kind of annoying that after all the time going for the various PvE titles they seem to be just ignored. I think the majority of PvE players would like to see 'all' of their title achievements displayed.

/Signed

Totally diasappointing to say the least. I'm glad I haven't blown a Monumental Tapestry yet. I will wait to see what they do with this issue. Anet has been very tight lipped most of the week. They are probably working on the issue as we speak. Think positive thoughts.

ALSO

Not that I play a lot of PvP but, Anet please tell me how a PvP only toon is suppose to get to the HoM to showcase accomplishments when it is located in a PvE area?

Hmmm... oversight!!

Jack Stormbringer · Aug 29, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

/signed

I agree with the post from Silly. I was very disappointed in the HOM, namely the armor. I have Primeval armor for my female Nec, and i get Male warrior armor and some other class of female armor (Maybe Ele or Monk, can't even tell)

I also was hoping for more PvE titles to be displayed vs. just a side note of oh and this char completed the campaigns kind of thing.

With GW1 riding into the sunset, they really should do some things to make us happy for a short time, such as making the treasure hunter account based, and an Auction house, etc. (I know, for another post), HOM showing what we want. What will it really matter to ANet in a few months anyway. We'll be happy with that kind of stuff, and they can move on to making GW2 etc.

Just my humble opinions.

thanks
Jack Stormbringer{CDD}

Solar_Takfar · Aug 29, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

/signed.

Do take a look at the following thread for an alternative inheritance system:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10190360

pkodyssey · Aug 29, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

I don't understand the character vs account battle.

I, Me, the guy pushing the buttons, ground every last accomplishment on each of my toons. The gazillion hours of game play is what I want recognized. Yes, I have one toon which is "more complete", but if I grind cartographer on my ranger, and survivor on my ele, I still earned those titles while playing on only one toon at a time. That in turn took away from "grinding" time on another toon.

Reward me for giving you:

Prophecies: $49.99
Factions: $49.99
Nightfall: $49.99
EotN: $29.99
GotY Ed. $4.99
5 Slots: $49.95

TOTAL: $234.90, while playing for nearly 5000 hours.

I know more people that have much more invested.

Not to change topics but I am a devoted fan and would buy pretty much any upgrade or add on that I could for the game. PLEASE reciprocate.